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Cage Vs. Animals, Poor American Assassin Reviews?

Some potential good news and bad news here.

First, some negative reviews of American Assassin are emerging.  Empire Magazine is giving it a somewhat sour appraisal, saying: “By the time the jarringly CGI-heavy finale comes, any semblance of reality has been lost. As has its sense of fun”.  They’ve given it a 2/5.

Jeremy Jahns has also suggested that the movie is best watched while drunk, noting that the first 30 minutes are good but it becomes tone deaf and iffy as it goes further along.

Something to worry about?  If anyone has caught the movie, give me a bell (anyone in Scandanavia?).

But some other good news.  Nicolas Cage is continuing his prolific streak of manly B-movies.  Next (uh, after the other 50 are released), he appear in a man vs. beast movie!  He will will star in the independent action movie Primal as a big-game hunter. Production is scheduled to start on Oct. 23 in Puerto Rico.

Thanks to: Mt1974k/Austrian Oak

  • Barney Ross

    Fuck these shitty critics bunch of pg13 loving rats, i will support it and watch it in cinema

    • The Night Rider

      Yeah Empire has had suspect reviews for such a long time now. Modus operandi seems to be to polish turds if someone is greasing their wheels, then let rip, perhaps unfairly, on smaller movies in an attempt to look ‘honest’.

      • Barney Ross

        At first i thought this would be PG13 i was surprised to see that it is HARD R aka UK 18. I’m supporting it with my money no matter what…At least once in cinema.

        Let’s see what we think after we see it and let others know, i’ll do like i always do and ignore the sellout critics.

        https://media.tenor.com/images/e58d90cc4ecbdf7fd01adb69f3c5e538/tenor.gif

        • mt1974kc

          I expect the only reason it is 18 is the torture scene as revealed in the BBFC description of what is in the film.
          I would be very surprised if the normal action is anything above a 15, probably similar level to first expendables which only needed a 2 or 3 seconds cut to get a 15 in the cinema cut.
          There was an 18 version with those seconds restored on Blu-ray but hardly a HARD R.

          A film like sly’s Rambo is a true 18/HARD R from a violence POV.
          The original Robocop (peter weller) is a true 18/HARD R.

          Nothing wrong with a 15 from a violence POV though as nowadays they are as strong as many 18s were (not all) there are some exceptions that would be 18 nowadays (Robocop pointed out above)

          • Avenging force

            Agree completely we’re never getting close to the blood shed of robocop ever again modern 15 is as good as it gets so we have to imbrace it or live with the DVD collection.

          • Barney Ross

            Your favorite movie is ROBOCOP 3, inbred scumbag HAHAHAHAHA

          • Avenging force

            But he flys in three ,,,,see kingsman I’d full of shit cgi when you gonna change your mind and say you hate it soon I bet sssoooonnnnn.

        • csc-60293

          terminator genysis is better

          • Barney Ross

            Terminator Genisys is for little fags like you hahahaha

          • Barney Ross

            Terminator Genisys is for little fags like you hahahahah

          • Avenging force

            Hey knight will you please ban avenging force he’s making me sad cause all I can say is cock,dick,faggot help me knights im out of my league he’s making me sad ,pussy

        • csc-60293
      • Jack Caine

        Empire gave Attack of the Clones a perfect 5/5 score, but they only gave the 1959 Ben-Hur a 4/5. Their opinion’s worth shit.

        • mt1974kc

          No they didn’t Jack Cane.
          I certainly do not 100% agree with them but Clones got three stars out of five.

          We are talking about empireonline.com they are the website of UK based film magazine.

          The Charlton Heston Ben Hur also got five stars out of five.

          So you are either talking about the wrong empire or lying either way you are wrong.

          • Jack Caine

            Wrong. They changed their scores in response to the backlash because they’re too spineless to stand by their own assessment. Here’s Empire editor Mark Dinning admitting they fucked up on the Attack of the Clones review:

            ‘Mark Dinning has a confession. The editor-in-chief of movie magazine Empire once encouraged a reviewer to give a maximum five stars to the second Star Wars prequel, Attack of the Clones. “I hold my hands up. We ballsed up,” says Dinning, who was not editor at the time. “I just got swept away. It was fun, colourful, and Yoda had a lightsaber. It was on TV recently so I watched it and thought, what was I thinking?” History has since been rewritten, with the glowing review nowhere to be found on the Empire website, and replaced by a three-star take. Don’t tell George Lucas.’
            https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/apr/27/empire-magazibne-star-wars-steven-spielberg

            The same applies to Ben-Hur. They said it was badly dated and gave it 4/5 in the print edition when it was first released on DVD. Now they’ve put a more positive review on their site to save face. They’re full of shit.

            As to your snide remark about me lying…

            https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FamousOnlyBackswimmer-max-1mb.gif

          • mt1974kc

            You claim they are full of shit/spineless because they changed their minds.

            The first one you can prove they did that, that I will give you as you have some evidence to back that up.

            However it doesn’t make them spineless, someone can change their minds and give a film a different review after reconsidering it and attack of clones clearly isn’t a five star film. this would be putting on par with the best star wars films which it clearly isn’t.
            They admitted their mistake and changed it’s review to something more fitting the quality of the film.
            I truly don’t see anything ” spineless” about that.

            As for the Ben Hur claim, where is your link for that one? I am not just going to take your word for it.

          • Jack Caine

            Regarding the Ben-Hur review, I don’t have scans of every single issue of Empire. I read the review when it first came out. If you don’t want to believe me, fair enough. But if you look up the issue and read it for yourself you’ll see I’m telling the truth. Like I was telling the truth about them editing their Attack of the Clones score. They did the same thing with the DVD release of A Man for All Seasons. When that film came out on DVD they printed a scathing review giving it 2/5 and saying they couldn’t believe it won Best Picture in 1967. But on their website they’ve now got a more moderate 3/5 review by Kim Newman. They do this shit all the time.

            Here’s Kim Newman’s negative 2/5 review of Dreamgirls from the print edition.
            https://s26.postimg.org/e04h432eh/dreamgirls.jpg

            And here’s the positive 4/5 review currently on their site.
            http://www.empireonline.com/movies/dreamgirls/review/

            For the record, I used to be a long-time reader of Empire and collected it for many years. That’s how I know about these old reviews. At the end of the day, Empire is populist film criticism. And whether you believe it or not, they DO have a history of retroactively altering their scores to reflect popular opinion. They might print a review in their magazine saying a film is bad/good, only to post a review saying the complete opposite on their website six months later.

            Presently Thor: The Dark World and Jurassic World both have 4/5 scores on Empire’s site. According to Empire, those movies are as good as RoboCop and Total Recall (lol). But I guarantee you that ten years from now, when the hype has died down, both of those reviews will have been replaced. That’s how Empire functions. So why should I trust what they say about a movie now?

            Finally, here’s Chris Hewitt ADMITTING they change their review scores on the website.

            ‘Have you written any reviews you’d rather erase from existence?

            [Sheepish] You know what I’m gonna say here.

            Attack Of The Clones?

            Attack Of The Clones. Five stars. Yeah. In fact it has been erased from existence: if you go on the Empire website you will not find a five star review of Attack Of The Clones.

            Are you allowed to rewrite history like that? Isn’t it a bit 1984?

            Of course we’re allowed to do it, it’s our website!’
            http://theincrediblesuit.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/exclusive-interview-with-empire.html

          • mt1974kc

            I don’t have the issue of empire to look it up as honestly I get rid of my older film magazines, I don’t actively collect them.

            If you do then perhaps you can provide a scan of this review as you do provide evidence to back up some of your other claims.

            As for the dream girls reviews I assume perhaps they weren’t reviewed by the same person, that is just having a difference of an opinion which can happen in a film magazine which has multiple reviewers.

            Where all these reviews done again by the same person, eg was the higher/lower review written by the same person who did the second review.

            If so then that is more suspect if not then it is a perfectly legitimate difference of opinion.

            I’ll put a review that several on this site would find wrong.

            I don’t think predator is close to a five star film/masterpiece for me it is 3 stars at most. I find it totally overrated on this site and not close to arnie’s best film.

            Also a film I changed my mind about after watching again.

            Terminator 2 when I first watched it I thought it was great and would have given it easily 5 stars.
            However after re-watching although still finding it very good I would only give it 4 stars.

            My reason is I spotted all the various times you can CLEARLY see arnie’s stunt double, once would be forgivable but their are multiple viewings of him and that to me is just bad direction by JC (not something I’d often accuse him of he is usually excellent).
            So it is certainly possible to change your point of view after re-watching something.

            As for Jurassic World/ Thor: dark world I would say they are both more like 3 star films.
            Total recall/Robocop (original versions not remakes) are yes 5 stars.

            However yet again who reviewed the first two films and who reviewed the second, if different then that is simply a difference of opinion.

            As for American Assassin, even though not all people would give it a two star review I doubt very much it is close to great.
            I have heard no great reviews for it so far, best ones are around 3 stars.

            Total film has it at 3 stars so did the Daily Mail critic. He also attacked the critically liked mother! with Jennifer Lawrence giving it a one star review.

        • Avenging force

          I keep all my movie magazines checked that issue they gave clones 3 stars out of 5 so stop talking balls at least google and check before you make up shit.

          • mt1974kc

            I assume judging by the online article he posted backing it up that empire’s online review was initially 5 stars before they changed it.

            The printed review as you say was the changed one and 3 stars.

            He admitted their mistake and despite jack’s claims of them being spineless I think they changed it for another reason, they simply realised their initial review was far too generous.

            Giving clones five stars put its on par with the best star wars films eg ( new hope + empire) which it clearly is not. Nothing about clones is five stars worthy so they were right to change it.

          • Avenging force

            DVD extras got five stars movie got 3 on original release and DVD so mabey that’s what he means

          • Jack Caine

            No, I mean the film itself got 5/5 when it was first reviewed. That’s a fact. Empire was universally mocked for this and so later changed their score to a 3/5. Here are two separate links where the critic in question admits to giving it a 5/5 and later changing the score.

            https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/apr/27/empire-magazibne-star-wars-steven-spielberg

            http://theincrediblesuit.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/exclusive-interview-with-empire.html

            Empire did the exact same thing with The Phantom Menace. They originally gave it a 5/5 and included it in their top 500 greatest movies list. They later changed the score to a 4/5. The Rotten Tomatoes page still lists Empire’s rating as a 4/5.

            https://s26.postimg.org/cjbyp3krt/phantom_menace_empire.png

            Later they changed it again to a 3/5, which is where it’s currently at on their website.

            http://www.empireonline.com/movies/star-wars-episode-phantom-menace/review/

            If the online consensus towards Phantom Menace changes, don’t be surprised if Empire edits their review yet again to reflect that.

            Empire also changed its score for The Two Towers. They originally rated it a 4/5, saying it wasn’t as good as Attack of the Clones. A few months later, after The Two Towers got nominated for Best Picture, they revised their review to give it a perfect 5/5. I guess the flaws they’d spotted the first time around magically vanished once the movie became a hit. That’s journalistic integrity for you.

          • Barney Ross

            Who cares what you think???? fucking cockroach

      • mt1974kc

        The Night Rider,
        Let’s try some specific examples of where this is happening can we rather than nothing specific at all and very vague.

      • Avenging force

        Yeah name 5 suspect manly reviews from empire other wise your just fake news

        • Barney Ross

          What are you doing on this site fucking girly man faggot???????????????? obviously nobody likes you here, you stink, like egg-fart, also your fat father is an inbred baboon…

          • Avenging force

            I don’t give a fuck who likes me on a fucking movie site bitch it’s not my real life ,but you seem to take it all personal so I’m guessing the people on here are as close to real friends as you have which is a sad sad place to be ,now I get all the tough talk and HAHAHAHA SHIT your a lonely little pussy .

          • csc-60293

            You are driving him crazy Avenging Force ! Im laughing my ass off . Keep up the good work

          • Barney Ross

            Hey cum breath why do you need 2 accounts??? You got no balls, son of a smelly fat whore

          • csc-60293

            we are driving you crazy lol

          • Barney Ross

            Triggered…COCKROACH hahahahahahahahahha

            You are pissed in fact so pissed you are probably kicking your screen now haaaaaaaaaaahahahaha

      • Barney Ross

        Hey Knightrider, want to ban this little cockroach (avenging force) or you want me to take care of it?? I made this little fag shit so mad now he attacks you HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

        If i was you i’d ban him for the laugh but hey if you keep him here i’ll continue to piss him off like i always do
        https://media.giphy.com/media/IFp1QubcEFnpu/giphy.gif

        • Avenging force

          Hey nightrider want you to suck your dick again Jesus you are one sad little faggot.

        • csc-60293

          he is driving you mad lol

    • mt1974kc

      If talking about the above…
      Empire has given plenty of R rated/18 rated films good reviews.
      Jeremy Jahns has nothing against violent films either.

  • Avenging force

    Saw the trailer last week wasn’t anything new or exciting in it sure Keaton is great but everything else was just eehhh,think I’ll wait till a good copy pops up on kodi to watch it won’t bother with cinema.

    • Barney Ross

      Who cares what you think, fucking cock sucking monkey!! HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

      Why are you so sure Keaton is great?? Stop being a sheep, fucking inbred

      • Avenging force

        Fuck me your on a manly site and you don’t even like Micheal Keaton you really are a little bitch who needs to stop looking at kids in that way it’s not gonna end well for you

        • Barney Ross

          HAHAHAHAHAHA TRIGGERED!!!! FAT RETARD i made you sooooooooo mad now its my reward, i watch you cry and rage

          You should know, the more you rage like the fucking homo bitch that you are, the more fun i have!! Gay faggot go finger yourself while you think of Bieber, you colossal cock sucking ratboy HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

    • Barney Ross
      • csc-60293

        lol they got under your skin

  • Fat Gut

    Saw it at an advanced screening, the opening was great but it turned into a watered down pg13 converted to R type of movie. It will appease some fake men here like Purple Barney. Sad!

    • Barney Ross

      Says the girly man coward…Stop lying shit for brains. You haven’t seen it. UGLY RATBOY piss off hahahahaha are you one of the little IMDB girly man rats that is still pissed about me???? HAHAHAH made you so angry and mad its funny…Years after, you are still pissed at me.

      I got under your skin AIDS infected scumbag
      https://m.popkey.co/e073b2/Xgdo6.gif

      • Fat Gut

        Cry some more, Barney, you like fake manly movies because you’re a fake man. Sad!

        • Barney Ross

          HAHAHAHAHA retarded baboon, keep telling you that, RATBOY

          My favorite movies are Total Recall (1990), Robocop (1987) and COmmando.

          Who’s the fake now AIDS infected ratboy????? You’re so gay, go finger yourself dumb faggot

          HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

      • csc-60293

        you can watch it on popcorn time ..why is nic cage crying ?

      • Avenging force

        Says the kiddy fiddler who loves that ittybitty titty I’d listen to that guy over you your taste and opinion changes more than the meters you have to stay away from play grounds ,ohh aliens is gonna be amazing ohh the new aliens sucks shut the fuck up you Kaitlyn jenner looking motherfucker.

        • Barney Ross

          Didnt read your shit, useless shit stain. IDIOT.

          • Avenging force

            Ohh you read them skid mark

    • Barney Ross
      • csc-60293

        triggered lol

        • Barney Ross

          Im the king of trolls, the best there ever was. I can make you believe anything. You think im pissed?? Never was, ever. Its part of the game, i attack, you are mad, you attack back, i laugh non-stop since years. I managed to troll all on imdb for years….

          For me you,re just a weak troll with no balls like your little shits who back you up (your alternate account)

          FLAWLESS VICTORY.

          • csc-60293

            You are funny. This is really important to u lol. Look at the size of your replys. Its obvious that u take this way to seriously. Thats why people make fun of u.

          • Barney Ross

            Triggered. hahahahaha cock sucking creep

          • csc-60293
          • Avenging force

            Your the king of abortions that manage to crawl out of the bucket and live .

          • Barney Ross

            COCKROACH now you are REALLY mad and its even funnier.

            HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH did you cry all week-end long?? girly man

      • The Night Rider
    • csc-60293

      agree its terrible

      • Barney Ross

        FAGGOT

        • csc-60293

          triggered lol

    • Avenging force

      That’s what I was thinking from the trailer looks like gritty first half then shitty cgi second hope I’m wrong

      • Barney Ross

        RETARD

  • Mucho Macho

    Critics are hating it..
    Then chances are I’m going to like it.

    • Barney Ross

      That’s the spirit mate, ignore the little rat called Fat Gut, he’s just a fucktard with no balls anyways hahahaha

    • GWB 8219

      I agree. Critic says its shit, i usually thnik 5 star

      • Mucho Macho

        Horror movies and action movies usually get shit on by critics so nothin new there. I like the novels that feature this character. I read your post that you started reading the novels & they are pretty good in the tradition of Tom Clancy/ Jack Ryan.
        Unfortunately the author died way too young from cancer. American Assassin was his second to last novel but the novel served as a prequel to the character therefore it makes sense that it was the first of the adaptations of the novels.

        I don’t need this to be the greatest movie on Earth. I just want it to be a Kickass entertaining action movie

        • mt1974kc

          IT is certainly an exception to your critics shit on horror movies rule, perhaps they just shit on bad ones (which there are plenty)

          Also action movies do get good reviews when they deserve them especially from you tube critics who are usually less snobby and more mainstream.

          Honestly I expect if you are forgiving action fan not wanting a masterpiece this film will be fairly entertaining but I doubt anything great.

          Perhaps comparable to the recent hitman’s bodyguard quality wise.

    • Avenging force

      Usually agree I mean love American ninja 2 ,code of silence ,perfect weapon with Jeff speakman just imagine the reviews of those by critics but think they’re right about this trailer looks like generic cgi flat action by the numbers,hope I’m wrong I mean I loved the accountant with batfleck and that got shitty reviews.

      • Mucho Macho

        For the most part most action and horror movies are shit on by critics.
        I like the books this movie is based on. I don’t expect anything Earth changing.. I just want the movie to be a kick ass action movie.. that’s it!
        An entertaining Kickass movie would do for me just fine

        • Me too. I’m a simple kind of man with my action movies. I just want the action to be kick ass and impressive & I’ll be satisfied

          • Mucho Macho

            I went to check out some of the reviews for the movie but I didn’t get too much into them because I didn’t want to get any spoilers however lots of them said the exact same thing “cheesy and 90s throwback action” ..and that’s good enough for me.
            Plus I got the vibe it’s not too PC for todays critics…so I’m there

          • Yeah one negative reviewer hated it because it painted some Muslims as terrorists. Jesus Christ 🙄

          • Mucho Macho

            That mofo would have an epileptic seizure if he watched this movie..😂
            https://youtu.be/r-UCFBS4a5I

          • mt1974kc

            Agreed there Saverio that is a BS reason to dislike this as frankly most modern terrorists in the real world are muslims.

            That reviewer seems like a SJW who needs his “safe space” as he doesn’t want to deal with who in reality are terrorists.

          • True True True!!!

        • Avenging force

          I agree completely

          • Barney Ross

            FAT RETARD HAHAHAHAHA

      • Barney Ross

        RETARD you love Robocop 3 HAHAHAHAHA you piece of shit scumbag

        • Avenging force

          Every time there you are I only fuck bitches Barney stop looking at my cock it’s creepy

          • Barney Ross

            Triggered HAHAHAHHAHA ratboy now you are REALLY mad…

      • Barney Ross

        Hey retarded shithead what you love is Die Hard 4 and Robocop 3 COCKROACH!! hahahahahahahahahha

        You mad?

    • Avenging force

      Watched it yesterday it’s ok just ok shame starts good Keaton is cool but this is the last one don’t think there will be a sequel I enjoyed the banderas security gaurd film better and that cost about 500 pounds to make.

      • Mucho Macho

        I just saw “Security” as well..& really liked it. Banderas was cool.
        Havent been able to go to the cinema but hopefully I will soon.
        Need to catch up

      • Barney Ross

        500 pounds to make??? HAHAHAH FUCKING INBRED FAGGOT

  • Barney Ross
    • csc-60293

      bitching won’t help ….

      • Barney Ross

        Homo bitch go finger yourself

        • csc-60293

          Keep bitching lol

    • Avenging force

      This pussy Barney spent weeks telling everyone how awesome the new aliens was gonna be then cried like the bitch when it sucked ,now he’s spunking all over kingsman he’s acting like the 3 star ok action film hitmans bodygaurd Is like the second coming of die hard ,he’s as an angry creepy little bastard who only goes to the cinema to stand in the lobby to watch the kids going into the imoji movie in the words of James Hatfield you know it’s sad but true.

      • Barney Ross

        TRIGGERED

        Look at the little girly man coward crying again hahaha you’re boring, piece of warm smelly shit

        (btw didnt read your girly man shit, too long and useless) also fuck you and your ugly mother HAHAHAHHAA

        • Avenging force

          Ohh you read it bitch

          • Barney Ross

            Nope didnt read, you fat coward

        • French Predator

          AHAHAHAHAH PWNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!!

  • Barney Ross
  • GWB 8219

    Hope this movie is not a shit show. I jusr started reading the books and i am impressed so far.

  • mt1974kc

    Another review to add into the mix from a popular you tube channel
    The schmoes know.

    One gave it 2.4 out of 5 schmoes. He liked the first 15 mins but then said it went downhill.
    The second liked it a bit more and gave it 3 and a quarter schmoes out of 5. He said it had a 90s action movie vibe.

    Neither loved it but one forgave it’s flaws a bit more than the other.

    The first one basically said wait for dvd etc.
    The second said it was just about worth a cinema watch.

    Both liked Dylan O’Brien and Michael Keaton in it.

  • csc-60293

    American Assassin sucks ….dont watch it

    • How’s the action?

      • csc-60293

        Pretty good

        • French Predator

          Not enough PC for ya kiddo?.

          • csc-60293

            I use Mac

          • French Predator

            don’t play dumb

  • French Predator

    American Assassin seems to Not be PC, maybe that’s why they’re taking a shit on it.

    • mt1974kc

      Some critics perhaps French Predator but certainly not some of them.
      Jahns didn’t give it a good review and he likes action films generally and didn’t make any comments about the muslim terrorists being a bad thing to show as promotes islamophobia or any such rubbish.
      Neither schmoes made any comments of that nature I can remember either.

      Honestly it seems it might be a fairly good action film if you are highly into the genre at best.

      • French Predator

        I’ll try this one anyway