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UPDATED: RT Behind Worst Box Office In 25 Years?

UPDATED:  The 2017 box office problem obviously has not gone unnoticed among Hollywood big wigs.  Now, along with Brett Ratner, they believe they have found the source of the problem; Rotten Tomatoes.  According to the NYT, some even want it destroyed!

Mr. Ratner’s sentiment was echoed almost daily in studio dining rooms all summer, although not for attribution, for fear of giving Rotten Tomatoes more credibility. Over lunch last month, the chief executive of a major movie company looked me in the eye and declared flatly that his mission was to destroy the review-aggregation site.

I also think that RT is a problem if not for the same reasons.  Several times this year I’ve looked at a few movies which had been rated poorly on RT, which were in my opinion ‘watchable’, and I found that the negative critique was politically motivated.  Rather than entertainment merit.

PREVIOUSLY: Things aren’t looking too good in old Hollywood.  The box office this year is 6.3% behind 2016 and continues to fall behind 2015, 2013, and 2012.  It’s worse if you consider than ticket prices and inflation are also rising.

The summer attendance for movies in America is also at a 25 year low.  The overall summer box office is down 16% compared to 2016.

Among the worst flops were King Arthur: Legend of the Sword.  Now even though it looks like crap, I’m not going to shit on that movie for certain, or its failure, for two reasons; Haven’t seen it and historical movies like this need to do better, next to vacuous CGI leotard kitsch.

That leads me to another point, a cursory look at the ten worst bombs doesn’t seem to show any leotard movies, but it does show the R-Rated Alien: Covenant.

  • Mucho Macho

    * Movies are not as good. Or good movies are far and few in between
    *Ticket Prices are too high
    *People who disturb others in the theater by never shutting the fuck up
    * Short time period between theatrical release and home video release
    * Not everybody of course but there are a lot of people that are starting to boycott Hollywood. When so many celebrities and or an industry in general act so condescending towards possible customers because of their politics, those customers may decide not to buy the product.

    All these things are factors in people not going to the movies as much as they once did.

    • TheOldMcClane

      also all the streaming choices people have now.

      • Mucho Macho

        Yep..
        Lot more quality in tv nowadays compared to some movies

  • Mucho Macho

    It’s worth mentioning that even though Marvel movies and TV shows are making a shitload of money, the comics are having very low sales.

    Marvel hire bunch of feminist idiot bloggers seems like to write for the company & now for example you have a female Thor & Iron Man is currently a black female college co-ed. Marvel Comics have gone full-blown PC agenda pushin and comic book sales have gone to shit.

    • UpInHurr

      Yes. their movies which are based on their traditional heroes that people have known for decades are making bank like hell!! But they are getting their asses kicked in comic sales and in the animated movies department. DC always seemed more apolitical to me, but they are slowly working the same angle it seems…..

      • Mucho Macho

        I believe that if you want a character to be such and such, then create new characters instead of turning beloved ones that have been around for decades into whatever social experiment PC Culture demands that week.

        • Avenging force

          The reson marvel do this is because theyre comics are there to check out ideas for the movie univers in future as a lot of the Original actors will be retiring soon and as the world is a lot differant from the white heros of stay lee and jake kirbys days they are bringing in a more colored cast to represent 2017 for future casting of the movies

          • Mucho Macho

            The reason Marvel does this is it’s not out of the kindness of their heart, it does not even come from a good place ..it’s just about politics and propaganda.

            And these movements don’t come from minorities, they come from white people with so-called “white guilt”. Those that talk the most about diversity live the least diverse lives. In their minds this makes them martyrs

            I speak Spanish, you think I give a shit about watching Miles Morales as Spider-Man ..No…dont give a shit. But they don’t even want to listen to the opinions of those they claim to be for.

            The vast majority of people complain not about having character with certain traits or certain races or certain sexualities, it’s turning beloved characters that have been around for decades just so they can serve somebody’s political agenda.

            Feig’s Ghostbusters receive such a backlash because a beloved franchise was used as an agenda tool. & it wasn’t even done right

          • Avenging force

            I’m not sure your angle ,you seem a good guy but your angry for comics having more people of colour or women in them I don’t give a fuck if something’s good I don’t think that would be better if the hero was white ,if idris elba was cast as bond would I care no cause he’s a cool mother fucker who would make a great bond ,if a better white actor beat him to the part would I care no if he was the better actor ,reason all super heros are white is because the were invented in a racist white lead time that’s it reason you get more coloured comic heros now is cause more are writing them I think your American right not sure but probably white ,sorry if your not your country was almost bankrupt by rich white men yet you seem to get mad if anyone try’s to change things up ?

          • Mucho Macho

            Sometimes the changes come across as shitty cause like I wrote it’s more about a agenda rather than creative quality.

            But for example a lot of people hated the DareDevil movie but I did not. I was a fan of Michael Clarke Duncan & I had zero problems with him being cast even though in the comics Kinpin was white. Clarke looked like a Big Bad motherfuker that could rule Hell’s Kitchen and the Bronx. There’s a difference between that and Paul Feig’s patting himself on the back about making a female shitty Ghostbusters just cause he is a “feminist”.

            Again if you want to have a gay comic book character you don’t have to make Batman one, create a new one. That is my point and most people’s point. There’s a reason they have lasted as long as they have. It’s like the Coca-Cola company found out the hard way, don’t mess with a winning formula.

          • Avenging force

            That is true lotta bitches got there man period over Michael Clarke dunkin I love that movie think its very underrated and you do always say you like it so point takin only bad thing about that whole movie was the billion YouTube videos with that fucking so ng that came after 😁

          • Avenging force

            That is a fine response your wrong and I’m right but well done for a fine response 👊🏻

          • Mucho Macho

            It is a fine response..but not wrong😎Lol

    • Avenging force

      Wow thank you for your whistle blowing on marvel its brave of you to speak up Im guessing you work for marvel since you know who they hire.

      • Mucho Macho

        These are a bunch of female Marvel writers. They posted this picture on Twitter and people started to make fun of them calling them “fake geeks”, saying no wonder sales are so bad & the storylines are so shitty filled with SJW agendas.
        There were a bunch of articles on the matter hence me not being the only one who knew of this.
        Sometimes you don’t have to work for a company to know what’s going on cuz they make their information available to the public. Oh and by the way if you ever read a comic book the issues always have credited writers …
        it’s no secret.

        And last but not least ..We all know nobody is as Brave as you. I mean how can we compete.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2fdbf176442c45956d3b71367066a869b6e3f70fad85f236ee651114c0169dda.jpg

        • Avenging force

          I’d bang the blonde one ,the black one and mabey the red head 👍🏻😀

          • Mucho Macho

            Sexist!!
            No such thing as “Locker Room Talk”

            by the way yeah I agree with the you. The middle one, the redhead is pretty cute. She writes shit but I’ll bang her😀

  • Mucho Macho

    I’m glad however that a R-rated action movie has been the number one movie for the past 3 weeks. “The Hitman’s Bodyguard” is a cool movie.

    • Barney Ross

      Yeah man best movie of 2017 by far!!! it was fucking good! 3 weeks number one man, great job all manly man who paid for it. Watched it two times in cinema

      • Avenging force

        Wow they let you out twice good for you your getting better just stay away from any imoji movie screenings you creepy little bastard # barney is a clb

  • Mucho Macho
    • AlTeo

      A potential remedy:
      https://youtu.be/Sgwfvu6k0xs

      • Mucho Macho

        😂😂
        I actually liked this movie. It’s been a while since I’ve seen it but I remember laughing at it

  • csc-60293

    I only download films so i can’t complain

    • Barney Ross

      Yeah but you only watch Pg13 shits anyways so we’re alright. The manly man support R rated films in cinema.

      • csc-60293

        The last film I downloaded was Alien Convinent and it sucked. Just use popcorn time. You can watch a bunch of R Rated films there

      • ManlyFannyPack

        haha crazy barney is triggered again

        • Barney Ross

          Your ugly sister triggered my dick, nice body she has though, just put a bag on her butt-ugly head (like your retarded father did with your ugly mother)

          • Avenging force

            Anyone else think barney is a special lad who only gets one hour a day supervised access to the internet

      • Avenging force

        Who is we there is no we there is only you who bitches about almost every movie made says comic book movies suck then wanks all over kingsman 2 how good it’s gonna be a movie based on a fucking comic book you are like a bitch decorating the house you change your mind that much

        • Barney Ross

          Shit for brains go fuck yourself ratboy HAHAHAHA

  • Jake

    It’s the inevitable slump Spielberg predicted a couple years ago. Too many big budget films being released every week means supply is exceeding demand.

    Social media has also changed how people go to movies, with most content to just check out whatever THE big movie is in a given month and skip the rest.

  • UpInHurr

    Make better more varied movies and you’ll ensure that more people with different tastes go to the movies. Nowadays it’s pretty much all geared towards the PG-13 blockbuster crowd with very few exceptions, which is fine but there should be something for everyone. Every fucking studio is competing for the same audience an leaving the rest to stay home and look for more convenient options on streaming services….

  • Barney Ross

    Hitman’s Bodyguard is doing great! Annabelle 2 did good numbers, in fact, most R rated movies this year are doing good, most PG13 shit flopped HAHAHAHAHAH

    POW!!!!!!!!!! BALANCED IS RESTORED

    • anony

      Hitman’s Bodyguard is perhaps the best movie of 2017 so far. Logan was good as well. John Wick 2 did not reach my expectations. Other than that it’s been a very poor year, so no wonder the ticket sales are down.

      • Owner

        STOO!
        Piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid…..
        Hitman’s bodyguard was boring and should have been more violent. Watered down r rated is what you little girls want these days. Sad!

        • Avenging force

          Agree completely it was a 3 star middle of the road poor mans mid night run people on here are creaming there pants about it ,I don’t understand why I mean do they watch so little action movies that they blow their load over this just ok movie.

          • Barney Ross

            RETARD.

          • Avenging force

            Fake news

          • Fat Gut

            Barney writes erotic fanfiction of Reynolds and Sam Jackson I bet lol

        • Barney Ross

          RETARD fuck yourself piece of shit coward

    • csc-60293

      where are u getting your info?? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_in_film

  • Jeff

    This is like saying I’m an alcoholic because my girlfiend makes me drink. RT isn’t the problem. Hollywood rehashes an idea to death to make $$$, it’s a political problem in itself. Long live independents and Asian cinema!

  • Owner

    You’re just mad cuz RT don’t want your biased reviews. SAD!

  • David Barber

    TV these days seems to be the way forward for provocative, gritty entertainment that you can’t find at the pictures. Netflix and the like still churn out some great stuff. I am sure there are still some great script writers out there that submit stuff they’ve tirelessly worked on but it just gets thrown away in the gutter.

  • Jay Beezy

    King Arthur looks like a CGI shitfest anyway.

  • Fat Gut

    New study confirms RT isn’t behind the failure of bad movies. Your just mad they don’t want your biased reviews but can you blame them since you loved Wild Hogs and Old dogs?