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Christian Bale Reflects On Terminator: Salvation

Who remembers the news that Christian Bale was in talks for Terminator: Salvation?  It would surely suggest that the film would be taken seriously, as opposed to, well… ‘Talk to Da Hand’.  Obviously, things didn’t turn out as they should have.

And Bale has spoken on this with Happy Sad Confused recently, the actor got candid about why he joined the project and how things went off the rails:

“I said no three times. I thought that the franchise… I went ‘Nah, there’s no story there.’ I’d seen the first one and enjoyed that back in England, I’d been to the movies and seen the second one.

It was an unfortunate series of events involving the writers’ strike, involving Jonah Nolan, who was able to come on, and really start to write a wonderful script, but then got called away for a prior commitment that he had.

And it’s a great thorn in my side because I wish we could have reinvigorated [the franchise]. And unfortunately, during production, you could tell that wasn’t happening. It’s a great shame.

There’s a perverse side to me, where people were telling me that, there’s no way on God’s Earth that I should take that role, and I was thinking the same thing. But when people started verbalizing that to me, I started to go, ‘Oh really? All right, well watch this then.’ So there was a little bit of that involved in the choice.”

Anyway, things are looking up in Terminator land.  They’re getting rid of all the post-T2 shit and taking another shot at Terminator 3.  Can’t wait!

Actually, there was one good scene in Terminator: Salvation.  The Guns ‘N Roses throwback.  But even that was kind of shit, what we really should’ve seen in such a future war movie was Connor destroying a T-800 by himself, like it was nothing.

  • Mucho Macho

    I’ve stated this before here, even though “Terminator: Salvation” could have been better I do not hate it as much as other people. I liked it. I fucking looooooooooove the first two films so liking something obviously is a step down but “Salvation” definitely is a better film than “Terminator Genisys”.

    I thought that if they were going to go on with the franchise that’s what they needed to do. Concentrate in the post-apocalyptic world, have it be like a “Mad Max-kind” of a deal. But they keep coming back to present time or back and forth trying to prevent the future from happening when you know it’s going to happen regardless and it’s already being done and it will not get done better than it was done in the first two movies and that’s why they keep failing.

    Btw…Christian Bale was a fine John Connor IMO. Had they had a better script or a sequel that was better than “Salvation” I think he could have done a lot more with the character.

    • I thought the concept was the only good thing about it. The war is really the only place left to go. Christian Bale was fine as John Connor as well, but I wanted him to have long hair for some reason. Always felt like that kid from T2 would have long hair when he was older. Didn’t like the buzz cut. I know there was that scene of John Connor in the future in T2 and he had short hair, but that was after he was all scarred up. Still, I don’t think it would have been a big deal to let him have long hair. And I don’t know why he was doing that raspy Batman voice either. The director should have nixed that.

      Killing Sarah Connor. Bad idea. Not making John Connor the main protagonist. Bad idea. McG directing. Bad idea. PG rating. Bad idea. Throwminators. Bad idea. CGI Arnie. Bad idea. Superfluous subplots. Bad idea. Terminator romance. Bad idea. The only good idea was the setting.

      James Cameron should be the only one directing a Terminator movie. Coming back in a producer role is not enough. If he does come back for the ‘official’ T3, I wouldn’t even mind if they brought Bale back as Connor. Though I doubt he’d want to return. Maybe Cameron coming back to the franchise would be enough to get him back. But honestly, I’d rather everyone just left it alone. T2 was the end. That’s it.

      • Mucho Macho

        I think any motherfuker the names himself McG is not looking to be taken seriously 😂
        Btw.. I got the film on Blu-ray and it comes with the uncut version which is a slight little improvement over the theatrical version…it even has boobs😀!! just for a second but I’m a perv..LOL
        * I thought that them moving away from the present and concentrating of the post-apocalyptic world was always the way to go now if they were going to continue with the series because at least they can explore new territory and we can watch The Resistance fight Skynet and I think they don’t need Arnold for that because this is one role that honestly at his age, older Terminators are well..an “interesting” concept unless they can digitally make him young again like Michael Douglas in “Ant-Man” which I felt looked pretty good.
        * I do believe that after Terminator 2 Linda Hamilton opted never to return to the role. So either they recast the role or killed her off and obviously they chose to kill her off. The TV series is one thing but fans of the franchise were too emotionally attached to Hamilton as Connor so recasting the role was not going to go over well in my view.
        * As far as Bale’s look goes for John Connor it’s a personal thing I guess. They went with the buzz cut because of the military thing but the long hair thing could’ve worked if done well. One of the things that bothered me about “Terminator Genisys” was Jai Courtney as Kyle Reese cuz the guy looked like he came from a fucking weekend spa and not from a post-apocalyptic world …not even a scratch or dirt on the mother fucker!
        As far as Bale’s voice goes.. when he talks like Batman you know he means business..LOL
        * To me the first two films are fucking Classics, not only 80s classics or action classics but just movie classics period, awesome fucking pictures. And they should have just made those 2 but as we all know those pesky anti-corporate hippies from Hollywood love to milk every fucking cow dry and can’t leave well enough alone so here we are, so that’s why I said that if they were going to continue at least they should have continued in a post-apocalyptic world and explore new territory.
        I wish they would have continued with a sequel to Salvation rather than a “Terminator Genisys”.
        But no matter where they go, they’ll never match the first 2 films so I’m right there with u my friend

        • Yea, lol. McG reminds me of Nimrod, the guy who directed Predators. I have seen the uncut version and it adds very, very little to the movie. Probably done as a gimmick to increase home entertainment sales. Side boobs, in the very dark, rainy distance. If I remember right, lol.

          You’re right, that the only viable way to go was to the future war that everyone wanted to see, but they fucked it up on practically every level they could. There was no need for Arnold, at all. That was just pure fan-service, and I thought it looked terrible.

          Yea, they should never recast Linda Hamilton. I don’t know if she refused to return or what, but if she did, she didn’t want to come back for a damn good reason. Likely the same reasons that Arnie is staying away from the new Predator movie. Some things just aren’t meant to be, and Salvation was one of them. So was Rise of the Machines.

          Right. It’s not a big deal, but that always bothered me for some reason. It just didn’t look right to me. I know they were probably going for the military angle, but Connor never would have thought of himself as a military man. A guerilla more than anything else. The main reason to cut your hair short is so the enemy can’t grab your hair in combat, but if a terminator is close enough that it can grab your hair then “It’s game over, man!”

          Yep. Compare the war scenes from T1 & T2 to Genisys and it’s night and day. Hell, compare the nuke scenes from T2 to Genisys, and again, it’s night and day. James Cameron is a perfectionist filmmaker, and it shows in his movies. These other bozos who followed in his footsteps have no idea the level of detail and work that Cameron put into those movies.

          Damn right classic movies. Since they were so insistent on continuing the franchise, I would have wiped it clean after T2, which is what’s happening now. I think… But I’m still worried about it. James Cameron isn’t the same sort of director as when he was making classics like Terminator, Aliens, and even True Lies. And isn’t he taking a producer role anyway?

          How would you feel about Edward Furlong returning? I know all the problems he’s had, but if he was to spend a solid year getting into shape. You think it could work? I don’t know… But since Linda Hamilton is apparently returning, and if Furlong is willing to commit to an intensive training regime. Why wouldn’t he? I don’t think I’d mind seeing him back. It would at least give some continuity to the franchise instead of relying on Arnie all the time.

          • Mucho Macho

            *Oh shit I forgot all about Nimrod, thanks for reminding me of that fucker😜
            * Whatever happened to the chick from “Salvation”? Come to think of it the Terminator franchise has failed to launch the careers of their female stars. A lot of fans expected also Kristanna Loken to go on to other big projects. Now I know some might argue that these chicks were not Meryl Streep but for what they were required to do I thought they were okay I have to admit I seen much worse. They could have gone to have some other roles like that at least in some TV shows. I know Loken did a bunch of Uwe Boll movies.
            * Hamilton revealed publicly that she suffered from depression or some bipolar shit & she had a rough time. Also her divorcing Cameron might have also something to do with her not wanting to come back to the franchise at the time. But they seem to be better now. As far as Edward Furlong goes I remember all the chicks in my school being in love with the guy so I wish they could all see him now LOL. He seemed to be on his way to have a good career but he had his fair share of troubles. He actually did a bunch of movies that I like in the 90s. Pet Sematary 2 , Brainscan, Little Odessa , American Heart, American History X & Detroit Rock City.

            He still acting and you can still see him in stuff from time to tume but he just does not look like a guy that can lead a resistance. When he filmed T2 it was about what the character will grow up to be. Now that he’s an adult ( the kid is 40 now and it’s amazing how time has flown by) he would need to become more of an Alpha to play that sort of role convincingly. A few years ago he had a cameo role on the Green Hornet movie. In a post-apocalyptic setting the “worn-out” look might work but you still have to look like you can take a punch, shoot a gun or lead some people.
            https://youtu.be/kwdRauyX_Sc

          • I think the chick from Salvation does a bit of TV work here and there. That surprises me about Hamilton. I’ve seen her in a few interviews and she seems absolutely pleasant. You never can tell when it comes to depression, I suppose.

            Yea, he was the “it” boy after T2, but he can act. He doesn’t look like he could lead a resistance, now, but put him through a “300” type training regime, and in a quality Terminator movie, and I think he could surprise some people. Scar him up, use some movie magic, etc.

            At this point in his life, if Cameron gave him the opportunity to come back, I think he’d pour his heart and soul into it. I’d be curious to see what he could with it tbh.

          • Mucho Macho

            Well if they are gonna go with the original cast might as well go with Furlong. Btw..Furlong was cast in Terminator 3 but was fired shortly before filming began due to his addiction so it’s not like he was never asked back, its just that Furlong burned many bridges too. But I will be on board with him coming back but gotta be careful if they put him through a work out like in a “300” movie cause he might get a heart attack..lol..gotta start slowly and gradually.

            Btw here’s an interview Hamilton gave a few years back
            http://www.howibeatdepression.com/how-linda-hamilton-beats-bipolar/

          • Furlong is hardly the first one to do that, lol. Maybe the 15 yrs since then has given him some perspective. The involvement of James and Linda might help him focus as well. Idk…

            Yea, he probably has the heart of an old man, lol. He probably wouldn’t need something as intense as the 300 workout. Just something to get him back in decent shape. A change of diet would do him a world of good. A personal trainer would work something out that’d be suitable for him.

            I’m not fussed either way really, but if they’re going to make an official T3 and retcon everything else, then it’d be pretty cool to see all the same actors back. Sounds like Linda was a mess back then. Had no idea.

          • Mucho Macho

            I remember years back wondering what happened to her and I came up on that interview around the time it came out.
            Hamilton appeared on a few episodes of NBC’s “Chuck”. Dolph Lundgren appeared in the same series.

    • The Night Rider

      The comedy in Turdminator 3 is more unforgiveable than anything in Salvation IMO. Even the TV series.

      Turdminator: Genipyss on the other hand… I still can’t even process WTF I watched. It’s been locked away in my brain in a ‘DO NOT OPEN’ compartment. I assume it was even worse than Turdminator 3.

      • Mucho Macho

        LOL
        I disliked Part 5 more than part 3.
        I saw a few episodes of the TV series. The series John Connor was even a bigger fan in the series than in part 3.

  • French Predator

    and legless t700 gets up and grab neck’s Bale ahahaha

    fucking garbage

    • The Night Rider

      I remember when the leaked screens of the CGI Arnold came out, everyone laughed it off as a Chinese hoax (the cap had Chinese subs), because it looked so shit and fake. Turns out it was real. Someone in China literally got blame. No-one was laughing when the movie actually came out.

      Another funny thing is if you watch behind the scenes, that retard McG is going fucking crazy, so happy with his work and so excited. Yelling and screaming out of him “Yeahhhh YEAHHHH”.

      Fucking dimwit.

      • French Predator

        Mostow also was proud of his garbage.The guy didn’t know why the guys arrived naked after time travel.

  • Mainline DnB

    Said it a million times… Terminator Salvation is on par with The Godfather: Part II when compared to Rise Of The Machines and / or Genisys. Who would have thought that on this side of the millenium, three Terminator movies would be made and the best one would be directed by McFuckingG of all people.

  • CARTMANEZ

    Bale coming hot off The Dark Knight to Terminator was abit of a big fuckin’deal. But the PG13 (still can not believe they went PG), Mcg directing, no bluenight 2029 plasma battles,… it didnt have a fuckin’ chance. No wonder he flipped out